tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post7880486840269532574..comments2023-10-15T12:45:06.917+01:00Comments on Thinking out loud: Our transferable skills framework and digital literacyStu Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-47310627909420831072013-04-20T06:40:34.042+01:002013-04-20T06:40:34.042+01:00Hi Darren - just looked at Tris's Prezi - v us...Hi Darren - just looked at Tris's Prezi - v useful, thanks :)Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-19741928557773037332013-04-18T15:05:41.315+01:002013-04-18T15:05:41.315+01:00Sorry for the delay - thanks for re-posting your c...Sorry for the delay - thanks for re-posting your comment. I think you make some really good points re social mobility and social capital/networks. Are you saying that just referring to 'managing your online identity' isn't sufficient because that's potentially just about control (a bit negative) - whereas you are saying there are numerous benefits to creating networks (v positive)?Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-41705867269921057532013-04-18T15:00:38.618+01:002013-04-18T15:00:38.618+01:00Thansk for the comment - I'll have a look at T...Thansk for the comment - I'll have a look at Tris's Prezi. In speakign to @ajcann I had already added search in, probably something like: "Information acquisition strategies - Using search engines and bibliographic databases to source and cross check the authenticity of information". Will post the full list when I'm done...Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-87349788394897830732013-04-18T13:50:24.999+01:002013-04-18T13:50:24.999+01:00I guess it would be worth looking at Tristram Hool...I guess it would be worth looking at Tristram Hooley's 7 C's of Digital Career Literacy at http://prezi.com/lsxri_yeynak/the-seven-cs-of-digital-career-literacy/ as well. With my information hat on I think you need to include the ability to search effectively online (which Hooley calls collecting). People think they are better at this than they actually are!Darren Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07774310210806338520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-67735117752359899222013-04-16T13:50:56.825+01:002013-04-16T13:50:56.825+01:00Here's the post again.
I would say that socia...Here's the post again.<br /><br />I would say that social media isn't relevant for the average employER, but it is relevant to graduate employees. Admittedly, few employees need to use social media to carry out their roles (though there are plenty of social media-like tools in large organisations that don't hit the headlines, such as internal blogs or Yammer). However, all graduates need to manage their careers, including in online settings. LinkedIn could be an obvious place to do it for most students, and to use it well and create successful digital footprints, students need some help with productive networking practices - something that surely should be part of the employability agenda? Universities aren't just in the business of providing 'oven-ready' employees, after all. Helping students to understand networks is vital for jobs and careers, and more specifically, it would help those students of more modest backgrounds whose parents' networks and networking abilities are limited; so there's a widening participation angle on this. And as for alumni networking… if universities are serious about mining those for all sorts of reasons (placements, funding, projects), helping students with social media doesn’t seem to far-fetched. The digital divide in the developed world is no longer a matter of access or skills; the second-order digital divide is matter or practices, networks and identities. Universities should help minimise that in contextualised and authentic ways.<br /><br />OK, I’ll step down my high horse now :-)<br />afdujardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14950963097742051208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-56474349498567877552013-04-16T13:33:34.170+01:002013-04-16T13:33:34.170+01:00That looked like a good comment on the email notif...That looked like a good comment on the email notification but it looks like you deleted it!Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-53343889955973068242013-04-16T13:28:37.627+01:002013-04-16T13:28:37.627+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.AFDujardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00605373598572290870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-69026303682516509632013-04-15T15:07:10.337+01:002013-04-15T15:07:10.337+01:00I think maybe re bookmarking - "Use online bo...I think maybe re bookmarking - "Use online bookmarking tools to store, organise and retrieve information" ?Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-55849719690380480552013-04-15T14:53:50.699+01:002013-04-15T14:53:50.699+01:00Email tags in gmail? I'm pretty pleased with m...Email tags in gmail? I'm pretty pleased with my Evernote clippings notebook too :)Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-41433035707716073152013-04-15T14:39:00.938+01:002013-04-15T14:39:00.938+01:00Although I still do use delicious and CiteUlike fo...Although I still do use delicious and CiteUlike for bookmarking, I'm currently using email tags for a short-term bookmarking/ToDo list and it's working a treat: http://scienceoftheinvisible.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/try-try-and-fail-again.html AJ Cannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02256258076753792133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-6630359302964669122013-04-15T13:00:38.488+01:002013-04-15T13:00:38.488+01:00Really useful - thanks. You might be right about s...Really useful - thanks. You might be right about social media - just leave in the stuff about online identity. I think I also need to add something about word processing packages - can't believe how many people don't know how to use heading styles in Word - which are v useful for navigation and tables of contents. Re the rapid development - I'm trying to address this a little by making the list non-specific in terms of software - could be MS Office but could (should) equally include Open Office, Google Docs and others...Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-35795480527409636832013-04-15T12:58:00.755+01:002013-04-15T12:58:00.755+01:00Thanks for the response. I think it needs replacin...Thanks for the response. I think it needs replacing with something just not sure social bookmarking is the answer - I've stopped using delicious, switched to diigo and now that's lapsed and I'm using Evernote instead. I know others use G+ for it. My use of Evernote isn't social as I don't share the notebook publically. I think you're on to something though...Stu Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02720483784545235595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-36872689679609574562013-04-15T12:34:31.491+01:002013-04-15T12:34:31.491+01:00Thanks for the post Stuart. This is definitely a ...Thanks for the post Stuart. This is definitely a topic that needs to be addressed, as it is currently a big gray area for most educators and employers. I work in higher education and the biggest problem that I've come across is that -- in our office -- interns often overstate their digital literacy when it comes to tasks beyond the basic functions of modern computing. The most common overstatement, in my experience, is with Excel or graphics software skills. Applicants claim competency based on a very limited basic usage. <br /><br />However, I don't see it as a big problem in the long run. With the rapid development of technology, it really doesn't make much sense to invest too much time in teaching the current skills so much as teaching workers and students to search out and find solutions to solve problems that require more advanced technological solutions. <br /><br />Social media really isn't relevant for the average employee. It's a very personalized experience and professional skills should really only be relevant for persons is sales or marketing positions. Managing online identity should be the responsibility of parents along the same lines as teaching children to dress and speak accordingly in various social settings... Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10811265640018335196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4259578163162335970.post-34945710179310018252013-04-15T12:33:55.007+01:002013-04-15T12:33:55.007+01:00I like your list. Just a small suggestion:
If you...I like your list. Just a small suggestion:<br /><br />If you replace 'bibliographic software' by 'social bookmarking', this bullet point could become 'employer-focused' as even in non-academic jobs, people need to keep track and organised information. <br /><br />Admittedly, not social bookmarking software interfaces with Word; using Delicious or Diigo won't help with creating bibliographies in essays or dissertations, but could be a useful first step for students to explore this way of managing references online. However, Zotero is a proper bibliographic software which will work will Word while also allowing users to share their references on the web. So students could start using Zotero when at uni, and continue to use it after completing their degrees, to manage information relevant to their work.<br /><br />Just a thought.afdujardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14950963097742051208noreply@blogger.com